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This is very disturbing. For a few reasons. A 1 man team of 10 gets caught... 10 accounts banned? As opposed to the main that is commanding the fleet that is the account that ISboxer is logged into? That is kind of harsh.

Then 10 acct fleet teams up with some buddies for a roam... All parties involved would have to be investigated and I am sure the ban hammer would not spare some of the innocents.

This seems like it would be an administrative nightmare investigating false claims, alt accts replying they were acting independently, and the fleet members that really had nothing to do with any transgression.

In reality the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

Banning AN account would. Banning all no.

Oh wait then if the TOS / EULA isn't updated to include this and some will say they haven't read THIS forum discussion.. oops they still get banned anyway?

That just doesn't fit right.


Edit after thought... if a player owns 10 toons and 3 were involved in the transgression.. all 10 are baned?

no actually that is backasswards.

You have have toons on subscription. when you unsubscribe them they rely on in game currency (Isk) to purchase Plex to extend the monthly play time. This drives the price of plex UP because they are no longer on subscription terms. O_o

Some of the gob that spews on this forum is just incredible.

unsubscribing is not the same as quitting... make no mistake about it. They are just not going to pay real hard currency into CCP's wallet anymore.

again that is incorrect terms of the topic of this thread.

A player can earn enough ISK to purchase a subscription for 1 month (plex) via ISK on the market within 1 month, is that correct?

Thus if someone can unsubscribe AND earn enough ISK to pay for that account for the month they are playing for free.

Now comes the sticky part... do boxers have enough advantage to earn that amount of ISK per character to unsubscribe and go completely independent? Possibly, depending on their skill level, game play style and actual game input time.

It takes a lot of guts to unsub. Kudos for that. There will always be ppl selling Plex because they purchased it and want to buy the bigger shinier thing.

I have seen boxers boast 1 bill ISK in a day or less... so what? I'm not at that level and 1 bill in a day divided by 10 accts = 100,000,000 . Yea that is doable but not at my level. If the person will unsub and can accomplish this across 9 toons... more power to them. That is well within their right to do so. To bash a person for doing so... that is just bad form.

I'm not going to take your word on it regarding keyboards and mice and CCP's position. I can see CCP allowing a "macro" that activates F1-FN and a seperate macro that activates CTRLF1-CTRLFN as those can be duplicated with 2 hands. But a single macro that does both? Show me a statement by CCP on that one.

Hello CCP,

I'm using ISboxer to ice Mine among other things such as for window management in PVP. To stay conform with the new rules regarding Multiboxing software I updated my profile. I would like to know if the following is within the rules because my understanding is that it is but I want to be sure.

http://i.imgur.com/l2LccFu.png

What I use this for and what this does is simple. Every time I click the assigned key isboxer will synchronize the mouse courser position on the next client with the main clients then click control and then issue a left mouse click. Every time I click the assigned key it will do this first for client 1->2->3->4->5->end->1->.. when it reaches the last client it will reset and start again from client 1. I use this to lock up targets from the broadcast history window. Is that legit? Given that I'm doing one action to one client at a time?

I also have a round-robin key for opening the ore hold on an active ship and every time I click it it opens the ore hold on one client same order as above 1->2->3->4->5->end->1->

My understanding is that I'm interacting with one client at a time and not sending commands to multiple clients with 1 action so it should be fine?

He would be doing one click for one action, he'd just be clicking in one spot for an action elsewhere. It's like a cyclical keybind.


Yes, it's part of isboxer and can be seen here.
For an eve specific example it can do things like this.

True, but then to me this change is too simple. So simple in fact that it doesn't address the problem. If people are able to with a minor change continue on as normal, then what was the point in changing anything to begin with? We'll just be back here with them looking for another change to make to solve the same issue.

I want an answer to this from CCP as well. I just bought a Razer Naga 2014 mouse. It has 12 side buttons. Am I allowed to program those buttons to mimic keyboard keys? 1 button set to D. 2 button set to f1. Etc. Thats essentially what voice attack does, except voice attack is controlled with my voice. I say warp, my ship warps. I say orbit, my ship orbits.

Instead of using my keyboard, I am using the addition buttons on my mouse or vocal commands to use the ingame shortcuts. Both Razor and VA use 3rd party programs to achieve their ability.

CCP, please clarify this.

To sum up the wall of text: HTFU, and stop asking for CCP to hand everything to you on a silver platter. The mechanics are there for you to use to counter ISBoxers, but you must use them in order for them to work.

click the gate in overview, press D while in warp. it takes after you land.

been using it for years. fleet warp, and on each client select the gate in overview, and press d. repeat.

not only that, but if you click the wrong gate and press d, after you land the ship will warp to the wrong gate and jump.

pressing control+space while in warp cancels the command. it's like hot locking, except hot docking/jumping.

as soon as the FC says "gate is green" or "jump on contact" the client gets the d

Try this:

Initiate warp.
While in warp, left-click on destination gate -- this selects it.
Press D.

I would like to clear one question. May I use voice control application to control only one ship I fly? I play only with one character and would like to control ship via my voice just for pleasure.